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PostSubject: SQ style ICE   Tue May 19, 2009 8:19 pm

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lets talk about anything and everything about sq(Sound Quality) setup here... cheers and have a nice day. Very Happy

WELCOME TO THE SQ WORLD welcome

What is SQ?
There's a misunderstanding that SQ(Sound Quality) is a system that can't play loud. Stock system also can't play loud but that's far from a real SQ system. So what is Sound Quality? SQ is that aspect of a sound system, which
encompasses all of the performance factors which give the system the
ability to re-produce an accurate and life-like rendition of the
original recording as perfectly as possible. It includes factors such
as tonality, ambience, subtle nuance, system gain structure, dynamics,
transient response, and the list goes on and on. SQ is a combination of
all these technical factors as well as proper speaker placement and
proper system design. When a system is said to have perfect SQ, it
generates the most accurate sound possible, with a sense of musical
realism that gives the listener the impression that they "hear" a
live performance right in front of them, as if the listener was in the
audience watching the actual performers on an actual stage. Now, to get
this realistic musical "sound stage" in a car, it takes careful
system planning, speaker placement, and tuning.


From the reputable car audio enthusiast

http://teamaudionutz.com/a2.htm

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:11 pm

ya la c andrew ni, diam2 ubi ni, cek2 pakai sinfoni
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:36 pm

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ya la c andrew ni, diam2 ubi ni, cek2 pakai sinfoni



Kakakakaka...........ndadalah sa macam tu banyak duit tuk ICE ni....bagus lagi pasang Astro B.Yond...mau tingu piala dunia ni bulan 5 ni....waw.....bah sa buat utube jugalah ni macam c CK....kejap arr sedang upload ni...kamu dangarlah nanti arr....bah powerud apa lagi...pg rakamlah ko punya sistem tu masuk utube....sekurang2nya dpt juga idea macam mana bunyi dia.....
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:43 pm

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ya la c andrew ni, diam2 ubi ni, cek2 pakai sinfoni


Nah check my ICE...sorry some of the video got error while transferring....dont stop it if it seems like stuck...n please use atleast a proper headphone...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFLdBcKOgz0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfVR-El2DxE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lCjtc1ZDPE

Tada kicklah kalau mau banding ama c CK n c Power....tapi c finalazy buli talanlah kali....hehehehe..........banarkaitu finalazy?
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:53 am

sini ada jual 2 way scanspeak andrew. 1650 saja. Very Happy
http://www.icehifi.com/index.php/topic,2409.0.html

andrew, dah dengar video ko, tapi apa pun tak nampak. Smile aku bagi komen sikit, dari video tu, aku rasa midrange dia macam muffled. vocal tak berapa keluar dan tak cukup airy.

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:21 am

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sini ada jual 2 way scanspeak andrew. 1650 saja. Very Happy
http://www.icehifi.com/index.php/topic,2409.0.html

andrew, dah dengar video ko, tapi apa pun tak nampak. Smile aku bagi komen sikit, dari video tu, aku rasa midrange dia macam muffled. vocal tak berapa keluar dan tak cukup airy.



Waw...bagusnya offer tu CK....one of the best n the cheapest...tp pa boleh buat...gigit jari ja lah dulu...kalau ikutkan nafsu sudah sa angkat tu....

Oh thanks for the komen...btw apa maksud ko muffled? macam nda brapa keluar macam tu? Sa rasa macam ok ja tu vocal dia...tapi ntahlah sa tada dengar yg vocal lebih jelas kali....pasal airy tu mmg sa setuju sangat2.....mcm2 udah sa buat tuk kasih airy dia tapi x juga buli dpt....may be kena tukar tweeter lebih mahallah...tapi yg sa suka ni tweeter ni...suara lower treble dia kaya n jelas...n natural....ko dengar bunyi piano betul2 bunyi piano...tapi malangnya upper treble dia nda mo keluar....well, have to live with it till I got more money to get scanspeak driver...
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:13 am

baik ko cepat2 angkat tu scans. offer macam ni mmg tak selalu ada punya. hutang credit card sikit tak apa ba. nanti bila ada duit scans sudah hilang dan tak kembali lagi, masa tu bukan gigit jari tapi hantuk kepala sudah. tu seller ok ba, aku pun beli scanspeak aku daripada dia, tapi harga aku 2500, tweeter yg aku beli series revelator 7100 la, ni skrg dia jual series classic tapi mantap juga bunyinya for 2 way dan saiz dia kecil. tweeter besar susah mau install.

maksud ku muffled macam dia nyanyi dengan tangan menutup mulut, especially tu video wonderful tonight, bila dia nyanyi 'she puts on her make up', tu mid tak keluar sangat. sebab tu male vocal tak berapa keluar, tak cukup open dan chesty utk male vocal, female vocal ok la, tapi macam aku kata, tak cukup airy. technically, macam ada satu gap di 1kHz region. lebih baik tukar mid daripada tweeter. ko guna speaker apa tu?

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:43 am

pasal tu wondeful tonitekan ck sa rasa mmg sudah suara c eric clapton tu macam tu....hehehehe...nanti sa try lagu suara lelaki lain k....tapikan sa rasa lebih romantik suara dia macam tu...cuba ko try lagu tu d sistem ko...samakah nda...nanti sa pass ko flac dia....mmg tu lah bah anamoly kita urg2 yg download file dari internet ni....walaupun lossless...tapi ntah udah berapa kali kena convert reconvert dari satu format pg satu format...

pasal airy mmg tada chancelah untuk masa ni...kecuali lagu2 yang mendayu2....btw tu scans mmg tada chancelah mo ambil sekarang....pagi ni pun awal bangun mau jual getah...tapi menunggu sudah banyak benda mau dibayar...kekekeke...........kecualilah dia mau kasih reserve sa sampai bulan depan...bukan ja scans tu sa angkat...sama amp, sub and wayar2 dia tu sekali sa angkat...hehehe.....
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:02 pm

hai hai hai...broadband ku hbis udah, ni pnjam adik ipar punya hehe..aku udah tgk vdeo ko, galap jua eh..nda nampak...record siang2 ba, kc la spec system ko skali..

haha ada udah aku rekod baru2 ni, tp masih tweeter mb q la, nanti mlm sa upload...

sound??? i cant judge them since so many variables may interfere during taking those videos..but roughly not bad..
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:46 pm

too bad la bro, kalau next month i rasa tinggal tu amp saja. boleh juga la angkat, audison ma... cheh. Smile mungkin video tu berbunyi lain sebab direkod. tapi lebih kurang dapat dengat tonality dia. ko ada guna time alignment? betul ba, bagi list sistem ko tu. video semua gelap gelap.

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:20 pm

bah nah korang download ni file...cuba dengar macam mana bunyi dia dalam sistem korang... c masuklah dalam utube k....mmglah bunyi dia x sama macam dalam kereta ...tapi atleast ada idea juga macam mana bunyi dia.....kalau ada perubahan yg ketara berbanding dengan sistem sa...atleast sa ada idea d mana sa kena perbaiki...


rapidshare.com Eric_Clapton_-_Wonderful_Tonight.wav


alalalala ck tu scanspeak sudah kena juallah...mmg tada chancelah tu mo ambil kecuali ada cash dlm tangan now...tiapalah tu....benda macam ni come and gone...kalau udah melepas tu gigit jari ajalah...ndalah juga sampai hantuk kepala....ada lagi bah Piala Dunia tia lama lagi....kalau kepala sudah kena hantuk mana lagi dpt tingu piala dunia.....mana tau nanti ada lagi yg lebih baik.......
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:52 pm

ya ba, punya cepat dia jual tu scanspeak, hot cake. nanti bila aku balik baru DL, skrg DL pun tak guna. hehe. andreww, sistem ko made from apa? i tengok tu HU macam sony punya tu, gelap2 susah mau agak ba, speaker berapa biji pun tak nampak. sub apa ko pakai?

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:02 pm

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ya ba, punya cepat dia jual tu scanspeak, hot cake. nanti bila aku balik baru DL, skrg DL pun tak guna. hehe. andreww, sistem ko made from apa? i tengok tu HU macam sony punya tu, gelap2 susah mau agak ba, speaker berapa biji pun tak nampak. sub apa ko pakai?


Whoahhh gila gelap2 macam tu pun ko leh kenal HU sa arr...mesti CK ni dulu peminat Sony ni kan? yalah Sony lah tu...yg pakai USB punya...hehehehe...........speaker chikai2 punya saja bah...ckp pun bikin malu aja....tapi sekurang2nya c Finalazy punya setup sa talan juga....maksud sa talan tu SQ lah bukan arga barang or brand dia...setau sa dia pakai Focal entry levelkan? bah banarkaitu kana talan setup ko finalazy? Kasih masuk utube capat!!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:09 pm

klo sa pkai focal entry lvl kali sa gumbira juga 2...haha mlngnya sa lom lgi tukar2...haha
masi stendet la bro.ari 2 klo bukn computer rusak kali suda sa tukar 2 speaker...huhu actly 2 duit tuk comp set la ba 2...pa bley buat...first thing first.

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:42 pm

haha..hebat mata c ck ni tau, x men kali..hehe lex ba andrew,aku dulu pun pkai RF ja, cikai pun ada la juga drp tidak tukar langsung..wah, kalau c final pakai polyglass not bad what..hehe lucu la aku bc msg ko andrew...yah..talan dia hehe..jgn mrh a final, men2 ja..

wah tu scans cpat a jual, brg bgus la katakan, aku cari2 juga d internet aritu, susah dpt cni kcuali orderla..

nah aku punya vdeo, jgn kamu ketawa tengok aku puna tweeter placement a, talampau tinggi diorang pasang aritu heheh..


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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:30 pm

ko pakai honda city baru ka final(tgk gmbar signature ko), sound standard dia sedap juga tu..not bad, better than toyota's default system.
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:48 pm

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:51 pm

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haha..hebat mata c ck ni tau, x men kali..hehe lex ba andrew,aku dulu pun pkai RF ja, cikai pun ada la juga drp tidak tukar langsung..wah, kalau c final pakai polyglass not bad what..hehe lucu la aku bc msg ko andrew...yah..talan dia hehe..jgn mrh a final, men2 ja..

wah tu scans cpat a jual, brg bgus la katakan, aku cari2 juga d internet aritu, susah dpt cni kcuali orderla..

nah aku punya vdeo, jgn kamu ketawa tengok aku puna tweeter placement a, talampau tinggi diorang pasang aritu heheh..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvr1i1Uz9fQ



Waw...bagus powerud...buli tahan....napa nda c abis tu lagu...bah rekod lagilah tu wonderful tonite....kalau dari tempat duduk driver macam mana bunyi dia?
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:34 pm

hehe buli la ba tu kan...oh upcoming videos mungkin minggu depan la pas aku wat pillar baru...skrg ni nda syok dgr..nanti aku upload wonderful tonight, aku suda download td..
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:14 pm

aku bukan peminat sony, hanya last time bila aku main mid end, pernah pergi survey HU, macam pernah jumpa tu, akhirnya aku pilih HU panasonic sama comp set Boston Acoustics. tak payah segan ba, semua org pun pernah guna benda cikai, aku pun sama bila aku mula mula main ICE. asalkan sudah 'insaf' cukup la tu, benda cikai kebanyakan mmg bazir duit, 2nd hand pun tak ada value.

kesian tu finalazy, sudah aku tolong poison bini dia, lepas dapat lesen ICE dari bini, bank gantung lesen dia pula. soi betul ba.

power, video ko tu, cuba rekod sekali lagi dengan sub off dan kurangkan volume sikit. air con pun kasih off. tapi aku rasa tu mid ada keluar la, kan? ko guna apa rekod?

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:24 pm

ok...will record it back..amat jauh beza sound video ngan yg actual...tp bleh la dgr2 ja a...ya mid keluar sikit dari dulu..pakai handphone w995 ja..sound nokia jauh lg sedap rekod video(sbb dulu aku pkai n82 juga n n95 8gb hehe)
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:48 pm

sa pinjam nokia kawan aja tu pg rekod sabab tu galap.....yalah CK sa ni bukan budak baru belajar....lama udah ni....tapi sony ja lah mampu beli....ada banyak lagi benda bah mau dibayar....tulah malu2 ni mo rakam siang2....malam2 ajalah....yg penting bunyi sedap mah juga.....
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:00 am

ba, andrew, macam sangat senior ni... lol. gelap2 semua video ko tu mentang2 mau test telinga kita ba. tapi kalau video tu lebih kurang 60-70% originality la. mmg bukan semua boleh dirakam macam staging dan lain lain... boleh dengar tonality dia la. andreww next month sudah budhet kumpul ka? boleh mula equipment hunting. hehe. btw, sejak bila ko mula ceburi bidang SQ ni?

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Fri Mar 19, 2010 12:09 am

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ba, andrew, macam sangat senior ni... lol. gelap2 semua video ko tu mentang2 mau test telinga kita ba. tapi kalau video tu lebih kurang 60-70% originality la. mmg bukan semua boleh dirakam macam staging dan lain lain... boleh dengar tonality dia la. andreww next month sudah budhet kumpul ka? boleh mula equipment hunting. hehe. btw, sejak bila ko mula ceburi bidang SQ ni?


Lama sudah bah ck tahun 2003 tu lagi.....tapi dulu2 paling2 bali yg murah2 punya ajalah....harga getahkan dulu rendah....sekarang ni melambung gila....tulah mula2 mau jinak2 ni sama ni SQ....masa harga rendah tu dulu....sa punya sounds dengar bah satu kampung.....tapi tu semua yg murah2 punya baranglah....setakat mau kasih dengar satu kampung beli ja sub kasih latup2.....ada jugalah hikmah ni harga getah tinggi ni....
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:26 am

lama juga ko main ICE. next time bila ada masa ko turun KK kita pergi 'ngim cha'. ada lagi member SQ lain dari icehifi kuat juga. aku punya system kira no.3 saja kalau ikut ke-hi-end-an...haha, ada lagi civic yg guna P90 + scanspeak, seas dan luxman... ada seorang lagi ada TRU billet, dynaudio dan D2, ada lagi vifa dan D2. semua hi saja tu. tapi tu P90 mmg interesting sebab dia main passive mundorf gold/silver oil yg audio creation buat. mati la tu harga. 1 biji capacitor tak tau mau berapa ratus atau ribu tu.

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:09 am

ck nda ajak kami yg lain pun..apala...off topic jap...jd 'hot' suda topik sq ni..good!
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:31 pm

ada, aku kan ajak semua org, siapa yg datang, aku cuba organize TT la, last time finalazy dan ah leap datang, kita adakan TT juga, berhabis habis kita poison dia org, hehe. ni SQ sudah hot topic, mantap juga, thanks to everyone's contribution and support.Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:52 pm

Sa ada soalan bonus ni siapa boleh jawab....eran sikit bah.. yang aktif sini ni maksud sa berbalas msglah cuma ada 5 org kali...tapi view sana youtube sa ada 17 views....ni mesti ada peminat diam2 kali ni pg tingu balik2kan? Hehehehe....atau ada yg ikut discussion kita ni tapi diam2?
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:58 pm

ok bah ck..k nanti ko buat la, kami dtg beramai2...yeah...car audio for life

btw ni ada video aku rekod masa tunggu bini pg pasar tadi..pindik ja...
ada berani main metal SQ? tp sound recording sucks..too middy n too harsh than in actual car..volume tu 35/60 ja tp masih pecah2

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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:00 pm

Andreww wrote:
Sa ada soalan bonus ni siapa boleh jawab....eran sikit bah.. yang aktif sini ni maksud sa berbalas msglah cuma ada 5 org kali...tapi view sana youtube sa ada 17 views....ni mesti ada peminat diam2 kali ni pg tingu balik2kan? Hehehehe....atau ada yg ikut discussion kita ni tapi diam2?


haha, ya la andrew...malu2 kucing kali diorang mau join c ni.
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PostSubject: Re: SQ style ICE   Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:12 pm

Hehe.. saya bah antara dorang yang selalu ikut perkembangan kamu ni.. Smile

I'm interested in SQ, tapi buat masa ni masih main yang biasa2 saja.

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