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PostSubject: 4A-GE   Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:36 pm

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kita crita2 ttg 4AGE dcni...sapa2 ada info kongsi2 lah bersama......thanx..
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:06 am

any view bout 4a using mivec piston? hehehehe....16v with mivec piston? i need u'll guys suggestion and point of view....16v with a high comp piston? hp? torque? pro and cons?
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:44 am

kalu itu...mau sifu donjuandemarco of ns performance yg menjawab pertanyaa mu tu shezzo.....

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:54 pm

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any view bout 4a using mivec piston? hehehehe....16v with mivec piston? i need u'll guys suggestion and point of view....16v with a high comp piston? hp? torque? pro and cons?
thanks...



a fren of mine done this b4..

engine specs..

4g92 piston (rebore exhaust valve seat)
FSE fuel regulator
svt 4throttle
aftermarket ECU + standard wiring
standard head(non ported)
oversize throttle body (60mm)
lightened flywheel (HSK engineering..roughly 5kgs)

d results..
torque gila bab's
kakai sampai gear 3(rim15 9jj semislick tyre)

i suggest u use blacktop piston or vtec piston..y?bcos of d weight..mivec is slightly heavier than these two..

p/s my fren have a set if blacktop piston if ur interested..siap ubah masuk 16v..0168295770 - russell..call me if ur interested~
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:14 am

sell..y most car owner change to svt 4throttle aa?
is it better than bt4throtle?
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:36 pm

bro otai2 4ag mau tanya kalu 4age 16 valve ja kasi sukat2 dgn waja campro 1.6 siapa angat ar?....kalu 4agZe 20valve tu smua pun tahu kan...MMg power gila lr enjin tu dgn superchargenya,)
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:23 am

4age black or silvertop 20valve bro..
hehe
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:03 pm

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bro otai2 4ag mau tanya kalu 4age 16 valve ja kasi sukat2 dgn waja campro 1.6 siapa angat ar?....kalu 4agZe 20valve tu smua pun tahu kan...MMg power gila lr enjin tu dgn superchargenya,)


soalan yg telampau skema....

4ag tvis orginal dari trueno and mr2 lah bro...

maksudnya ko mo kasi sukat trueno ngan waja campro


corona tt141 + 4ag....pun belum tau waja boleh kejar...sebab badan waja berat.


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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:21 am

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bro otai2 4ag mau tanya kalu 4age 16 valve ja kasi sukat2 dgn waja campro 1.6 siapa angat ar?....kalu 4agZe 20valve tu smua pun tahu kan...MMg power gila lr enjin tu dgn superchargenya,)


soalan yg telampau skema....

4ag tvis orginal dari trueno and mr2 lah bro...

maksudnya ko mo kasi sukat trueno ngan waja campro


corona tt141 + 4ag....pun belum tau waja boleh kejar...sebab badan waja berat.


peace....






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betul...kami sokong...tapi bro..manatau waja dia setting berhabis..napatai kita
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:36 am

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m_hafiz wrote:
bro otai2 4ag mau tanya kalu 4age 16 valve ja kasi sukat2 dgn waja campro 1.6 siapa angat ar?....kalu 4agZe 20valve tu smua pun tahu kan...MMg power gila lr enjin tu dgn superchargenya,)


soalan yg telampau skema....

4ag tvis orginal dari trueno and mr2 lah bro...

maksudnya ko mo kasi sukat trueno ngan waja campro


corona tt141 + 4ag....pun belum tau waja boleh kejar...sebab badan waja berat.


peace....






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betul...kami sokong...tapi bro..manatau waja dia setting berhabis..napatai kita



Yup,tapi kalu 4age yg standard ni mmblast habis tanpa fkir keadaan kereta boleh tinggal jua tu waja bro,))knpa lah sampai bumper tercabut,)...
50/50 kali jua ar kalu dua2 berhabis.
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:48 am

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bro otai2 4ag mau tanya kalu 4age 16 valve ja kasi sukat2 dgn waja campro 1.6 siapa angat ar?....kalu 4agZe 20valve tu smua pun tahu kan...MMg power gila lr enjin tu dgn superchargenya,)


soalan yg telampau skema....

4ag tvis orginal dari trueno and mr2 lah bro...

maksudnya ko mo kasi sukat trueno ngan waja campro


corona tt141 + 4ag....pun belum tau waja boleh kejar...sebab badan waja berat.


peace....






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yup yg itu lah maksud ku bro,)tapi dari segi ketahanan enjin pula bro macam mana?d bandingkan dgn enjin waja ni....
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:01 am

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4age black or silvertop 20valve bro..
hehe


4age black 16 valve 1.6 yg besa2 ja lr bro blum pasang tuRbo,)...tapi menyucuk juga,huhuhu
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:17 am

blok engine 4age lebih kuat...light metal tu...ringan,ringkas tapi tahan pukul..sebab ford costworth punya racing-road edition bha tu...kenapa pula formula atlantic pakai ni engine..yang 16valve pulak tu...tapi fully modi la...di situ point nya bro..hehe...
bukan mau perlekahkan engine campro-waja...tu pun hebat juga..
mmm...tapi yang penting...lagenda bha tu bro...legend of Hachiroku with 4AGE inside,,hehe.
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:21 am

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bro otai2 4ag mau tanya kalu 4age 16 valve ja kasi sukat2 dgn waja campro 1.6 siapa angat ar?....kalu 4agZe 20valve tu smua pun tahu kan...MMg power gila lr enjin tu dgn superchargenya,)

ni maksud aku bro.
4agze ada 16valve jek....
yang 20valve tu ada kat 4 and 5th generation jak..meaning yang ada vvt punya system dan semestinya 4throttle...silver dan blacktop..
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:49 am

shezzo wrote:
any view bout 4a using mivec piston? hehehehe....16v with mivec piston? i need u'll guys suggestion and point of view....16v with a high comp piston? hp? torque? pro and cons?
thanks...


sedikit info untuk tuning high CR ( compression ratio )

- berkaita rapat dengan RON/fuel
- perlu di kira dengan formula yang betol..(bawah)
, where = cylinder bore (diameter) = piston stroke length = clearance volume. It is the volume of the combustion chamber (including head gasket). This is the minimum volume of the space at the end of the compression stroke, i.e. when the piston reaches top dead center (TDC). Because of the complex shape of this space, it is usually measured directly rather than calculated.-perlu pakai racing fuel untuk mengelakkan "detonation" pada injin

-sekiranya pakai fuel "biasa" , perlu retard ignition...respon akan lambat,
malah perlu seting "rich" untuk fuel,keburukan dah tentu myk makan kuat dah plug pon hitam..start injin pun agak susah..sangat rugi sekiranya pakai performance camshaft kerana kereta yang
pakai performance camshaft perlu MORE advan kan lagi ignition untuk mendapatkan HP & torque

RON 95 sesuai untuk injin CR di bawah 10.3
RON 97 sesuai untuk injin CR di bawah 11.1

tidak semestinya piston asal tidak power..yang penting tuning harus bersesuaian.. saya lebih suka std piston kerana kita bule "ADVAN" kan
lagi ignition,sudah tentu dapat respon & hp lebih hebat...tapi jangan lupa
fuel pon perlu di tambah..

hepi mod for u all guys...!! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:22 am

4age ngam rom 95 ka 97..?bro don jawab lu ehehe...
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:37 am

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4age ngam rom 95 ka 97..?bro don jawab lu ehehe...

ya..bro don jawab dulu..sebab aku pakai 97 skg ni..
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:58 am

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blok engine 4age lebih kuat...light metal tu...ringan,ringkas tapi tahan pukul..sebab ford costworth punya racing-road edition bha tu...kenapa pula formula atlantic pakai ni engine..yang 16valve pulak tu...tapi fully modi la...di situ point nya bro..hehe...
bukan mau perlekahkan engine campro-waja...tu pun hebat juga..
mmm...tapi yang penting...lagenda bha tu bro...legend of Hachiroku with 4AGE inside,,hehe.


yup aku sokong Bro,)...Mmg enjin legend lr walaupun pd abad ke21 ni enjin tu ttp mantapZ!!!.
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:09 pm

spec CR berapa..??
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:36 pm

spec CR berapa?aku tolong update tanya...aku pn mau tau..hehe..
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:53 am

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spec CR berapa?aku tolong update tanya...aku pn mau tau..hehe..

update lagi....mana taiko ni?
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:47 am

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spec CR berapa?aku tolong update tanya...aku pn mau tau..hehe..

update lagi....mana taiko ni?


saya tlg jawab la....16v punya 10.3:1
kalu 20v punya 10.5:1 standard nda ada kacau punya arrr

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:50 pm

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spec CR berapa?aku tolong update tanya...aku pn mau tau..hehe..

update lagi....mana taiko ni?


saya tlg jawab la....16v punya 10.3:1
kalu 20v punya 10.5:1 standard nda ada kacau punya arrr

tq tq..jadi 20v lagi power?
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:19 pm

tak semestinya..
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:51 pm

tumpang tanya :
1. tu tulang 20v ada 7 bha kan?sebab 16v aku tau 5 dan 7
2. "4age 16V" kenapa smallport besar saiz ekzos window?
3. smallport dan bigport dari segi head, yang mana lebih power?
4. kenapa bigport ada oildrain kat ujung tu?apa fungsi dan kelebihan?
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:19 am

bod...apa suda injin ko pakai sikalang?

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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:09 am

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bod...apa suda injin ko pakai sikalang?

masi sama juga..standart...
aku mau tau bha tu sebab kami sekarang tengah renovate engine, member punya 4agze jadi 4agte...so, banyak la kedapatan perkara yang sebelum ni kami tidak tahu...tanya taiko2 la ni..hehe..
progress kereta member tu ada dalam web RSMC, atau http://www.redsunmotorclub.com/activities-f38/blue-general-lee-updates-here-haitor-t309.htm#8240

hehe..crown masih pakai 20v?hehe..dengar2 dah ada 4 buah kereta..
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:50 pm

ada kemajuan nampak....
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:44 pm

kemajuan siapa bro jojo?hehe
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:20 am

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kemajuan siapa bro jojo?hehe



napa bro ko cari saya ka hehehehe
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PostSubject: Re: 4A-GE   Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:22 am

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bod...apa suda injin ko pakai sikalang?

masi sama juga..standart...
aku mau tau bha tu sebab kami sekarang tengah renovate engine, member punya 4agze jadi 4agte...so, banyak la kedapatan perkara yang sebelum ni kami tidak tahu...tanya taiko2 la ni..hehe..
progress kereta member tu ada dalam web RSMC, atau http://www.redsunmotorclub.com/activities-f38/blue-general-lee-updates-here-haitor-t309.htm#8240

hehe..crown masih pakai 20v?hehe..dengar2 dah ada 4 buah
kereta..


crown ni la ada kmajuan....4 da pakai 20v...mantapz
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