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PostSubject: Proton exora 1.6 CPS   5/2/2010, 9:41 pm

The inside of the Exora is very impressive from the point of view of
spaciousness and also appointments. With this model, the interior
designers have outdone themselves and far from looking cheap (which was
often the comment about Proton interiors), there is thoughtful use of
different textures for the various surfaces which makes a lot of
difference. In the past, this sort of thing was not given a lot of
attention and dashboards looked really cheap and plasticky. The centre console has a metallic finish which makes it a
distinctive element on the dashboard. The layout is clean and providing
a 2DIN opening for a conventional audio system will be appreciated. It
will be possible to easily replace the audio system with an
after-market unit, something which is less common these days as
manufacturers integrate their audio systems with the dashboard fascia,
making it a hassle for those who must have their own system.The
shift lever is mounted on an extension off the dashboard so it is
higher and within easier reach for most people. The automatic shifter
has a gated shift pattern like expensive models (though some cheaper
ones also have it now) which is nice for those who know and want to
shift manually (not to be mistaken for a tiptronic system which it is
not).
There are many storage spaces provided for cans and bottles for every
occupant, including those in the third row. The cupholders are well
designed, being deep enough to contain bottles or cans properly. And
the interior designers also went one step further by providing a slot
with the rearmost cupholders which can take a magazine or comic book.
The dashboard also has two separate storage compartments for the
passenger’s use, the second one above the usual glovebox. The upper one
is not, as is often the case, an unused airbag recess as the airbag is
stowed further up. If there is no airbag, then the space is used as a
tray. On the driver’s side, there is a slot for a tollcard, which is a
feature not many cars have so again, it shows the thoughtfulness of the
interior designers.
As many readers will know, this particular journalist has long made an 'issue’ about the absence of a teh tarik hook in Protons. From friends in the R&D team, I was told that this particular feature was made a 'must-have’ for the Exora because the MD didn’t want to hear me asking the same question again! It’s something which is found in many other cars and to me, it is a feature which is necessary for our lifestyle where we often buy food in plastic bags so there must be somewhere to hang it inside the car. Yet no one thought of putting it in the first Malaysian car nor the second one until now. And it’s not like it’s a complex feature either; yes, you can buy a pair for a few ringgit and put them under the headrests but Proton
could also provide them as part of the design. And finally they have –
one to the right of the glovebox and the other under the front
passenger’s headrest. Actually, even though the Proton people associate me with the teh tarik hook, I must explain that it was really the late Dato’ Gurcharan Singh, the first GM of EON, who brought it up. During the media launch of the Saga 1.5I in 1988, he complained that there was no 'char kuey teow’ hook for him to hang the packet of noodles and he felt that was something a Malaysian Car should have as standard.In keeping
with the times, the Exora (H-Line) has a standard DVD player/monitor
mounted on the ceiling. It’s a standalone unit which can play DVDs and
also accept media cards so apart from watching movies, the occupants
could review their holiday pictures as they go home.

One thing which Protons have been praised for – right from the first Saga –
has been the air-conditioning. Given our hot climate, a
high-performance cooling system is important and with the Exora’s large
cabin and extra glass area, this would have been a challenge. To ensure
that everyone stays cool, there are vents on the ceiling – two on each
side so that even those in the third row get cool air. The fan speed
can be controlled but the switch is too far forward (ahead of the DVD
player) and would be better if it was positioned over the second row.
Being a MPV, the cabin has to be able to change its seating layout as
required to carry cargo or people. With the Exora, there are 6
different layouts possible ranging from a 7-passenger layout with all
three rows of seats in use to a '2-seater’ with both back rows folded.
The third row is not removable but that’s not a problem since the
backrests fold flat into the floor. Access to the third row is easy –
just press the release lever on the side of the second row and the
whole seat flips up and forward. The floor height is not too high so
most people will not find it a difficult climb in. The rear doors also
open extra-wide to make movement in and out easier. Proton didn’t give
the cargo volumes for the Exora but it did show the media (via some
movie clips) that its MPV can take more cargo than the Grand Livina and
the Avanza. For now, the Exora has only one engine – the 1.6-litre Campro
CPS+VIM which produces 125 bhp at 6000 rpm and 150 Nm of torque at 4500 rpm. It’s a familiar engine by now so we won’t get into much detail. A
turbocharged version is rumoured for introduction later on but no one
will confirm it. Incidentally, the Exora has front-wheel drive in case
you don’t realize it.


Final drive ratio has been lowered for the Exora transmissions
The Campro engine – after the CPS version - has proven itself to be a good powerplant in sedans but with the Exora weighing over 1,400 kgs, the
weight-to-power ratio is obviously not as good as what it would be in a
Waja. For this reason, a lot of effort was put into retuning the
transmission control unit to provide the driveability that would be
acceptable. This also necessitated a change of the final drive ratio in
the Mitsubishi transmission to a lower 4.625 (all the other ratios in
the manual and automatic transmission are the same as in the Waja and
Gen2). This means that overall gearing is lower and that enhances
low-end performance but sacrifices a bit at the top end. However, the
Campro CPS is already known to be inherently strong at the top end so
losing a bit is no big deal. Most owners would probably not notice it
anyway. There is also a lock-up clutch installed which provides a
direct solid link in top gear at cruising speeds, reducing power losses
that occur with the hydraulic linkage.


The suspension layout is a simple one with MacPherson struts in front and a torsion beam at the rear (for the sedan variants on the same platform, a multi-link rear suspension will be developed). The front suspension is attached to a sub-frame and this sub-frame is hydroformed, a process
which gives it greater strength and rigidity while reducing weight. By putting the suspension on the sub-frame, there is better isolation from road shocks and the suspension elements also have more sturdy attachment points. Much effort has also gone into reducing noise in the cabin and Proton has spent extra money to provide above sound insulation materials as well as used some technologies to cut noise. This is something which is not considered in models in this
price class and again, Proton has tried to give more without charging
more.The Exora makes use of a Body Control Module (BCM) and
while BCMs have been available for some time, they have mostly been
found in more expensive models. It is likely that Proton is the first
manufacturer to offer it in this class. The unit is made by Siemens VDO
which is the world leader in the manufacture of such modules. The one
for the Exora comes from its factory in China, a little fact which
Proton engineers today have no reluctance to reveal, unlike earlier
years when the culture of secrecy enforced by the previous management
had people scared to say anything. There is nothing to hide about this
being an imported item and it was common sense that it cost less to buy
from a factory in China than to keep insisting that parts must be
sourced in Malaysia only and force suppliers to make them here at
uneconomical volumes. Nevertheless, 90% of the Exora’s parts are still
sourced from Malaysian suppliers.



The BCM is, quite simply, a 'box’ that can be programmed to handle multiple functions which normally require separate controllers, eg for the wipers, the door locking system, the security system, etc. With each controller installed, it means having separate wiring and of course a certain amount of weight. The BCM unifies many of those functions in a single controller, thereby reducing the amount of wiring and space
requirements and of course, cost.
A BCM can be programmed for numerous functions and in the case of the Exora, it handles 24 functions. Some are related to safety while others are for
convenience. For example, there is a Battery Saver function for the
internal lighting which is operational after 30 seconds and the cabin lamps also dim automatically, a feature which once used to be found
only in expensive cars. The battery condition of the remote controller
is also displayed on the instrument panel so owners need not worry
about it suddenly dying. One of the functions is to reduce the door lock system from burning out after excessive usage.

Apparently, it was found that there were many instances where
Proton owners had burnt systems and it was traced not to quality issues
but because children played with the switches too much. So to eliminate
such a problem, the BCM has a program that will disable the locks in
OPEN position (for 20 seconds) if the system is operated 30 times
non-stop.Many of the functions, though, are related to safety.
These include activation of the hazard warning lights if the brake
pedal is applied suddenly at high speed and if the airbags inflate
(signaling a severe crash), the doors will automatically unlock and the
hazard lights will go on. There are also additional wiper controls, one
of them to get the rear wiper to activate when reverse gear is engaged.
And like many European models, a gentle press of the signal stalk
(which is on the left side) will activate the signal lights for 3
seconds. This is for use when doing lane changes and promotes driving
safety – provide Exora drivers make full use of it.A few other
features are for personal safety – eg unlocking of just the driver’s
door with the first press of the controller (many systems will unlock
all doors, not a good idea in lonely carparks), and there’s also a mode
which leaves the headlights on for a while to make it easier at night.Having
the BCM also makes diagnosis and trouble-shooting easier; instead of
having to test different control units, just one needs to be accessed.
Of course, having many functions integrated in a single unit can also
mean that many things will be disabled if the BCM fails but the Proton
engineers said that the QC standards are high and such a problem should
be minimal.

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PostSubject: Re: Proton exora 1.6 CPS   5/2/2010, 9:42 pm

Safety is a top priority to all carmakers and with the Exora, Proton
has put it a greater effort than before in this area, probably because
a MPV would typically carry more people than a sedan much of the time.
No less than 32 vehicles were crashed, nine of them cost a million
ringgit each while the other 23 cost between RM200,000 and RM500,000 each.
The million-ringgit units were the earliest prototypes and cost so much
because they were pretty much hand-made since production parts were not
available yet. Though it is a phenomenal sum spent, Proton still saved
money because a lot of the work could be done by computer simulation
whereas in the past, vehicles had to be crashed, studied and
modifications made to fix weak areas and then another unit crashed.
Nowadays, most of the engineering can be finalized with computer aids
and the crash tests are for validation. The Exora was crash-tested for 12 different requirements, optional
and mandatory, all of which it passed. Besides ensuring that it can
meet the legal safety requirements in countries that it will be sold
in, Proton’s engineers also aimed for a high rating in the EuroNCAP
crash test. EuroNCAP is an independent organization which conducts
crash tests on vehicles sold in Europe and carmakers pay attention to
its results which are also made public. While EuroNCAP has not actually
crashed an Exora (and would only do so if it is sold in Europe and it
chooses to evaluate the model), its criteria are available to
manufacturers who can conduct their own crash tests and see how well
their new model will fare. In the case of the Exora, the crash tests
conducted in an independent facility in Spain showed that the MPV could
score 4 stars (out of the maximum of 5) based on EuroNCAP criteria.
As
the various pictures show, the structural integrity of the Exora is
very good and the cabin area is well protected during impacts from the
all sides. Rear-end crash tests are not presently a legal requirement
by any country but Proton also had that done and more significantly, it
had the vehicle put through a roll-over test – the first Proton model
to ever be subjected to such a crash test. This test, which was done at
48 km/h, shows how well the upper structure of the vehicle is
engineered to not only resist deformation and the roof pillars
(especially the front two) have to be strong enough to support the body
if it remains upside down, crucial to reducing fatalities. Passing the
test not only requires that there is no collapse of the roof structure
but there must also be no ejection of the dummies inside. That the
company chose to do this 'optional’ test (which the Exora passed, of
course) shows the importance it has placed in occupant safety and is
commendable. The structural rigidity of the Exora’s bodyshell is very high and
exceeds the targets that were set. While most people won’t understand
what torsional and bending stresses are all about, the important thing
to know is that in torsional strength, the test result was 39% better
than the target while bending strength was 88% better.However,
making a bodyshell very strong is not key to providing the occupants
with the best protection because the impact forces are still
tremendous. So the approach taken is to reduce the forces progressively
before they reach the cabin. In earlier years, this was done by having
crumple zones at the front and rear to absorb the forces but today,
with computer-aided engineering, it is also possible to design the
various structural members to absorb and transfer the forces around the
cabin.Proton has often been criticized for not providing airbags
as standard throughout its range, though this is understandable because
it is constrained by costs and Malaysians expect Protons to be cheaper
than other cars. Nevertheless, for the Exora, this issue won’t be
raised by buyers since dual front airbags are standard for both the
M-Line and H-Line. Given that Proton intends for the Exora to be a
major export model, putting in airbags as standard would not be a high
cost since the volume of airbags purchased would be greater, thereby
lowering unit cost. And as required by the new law, all seven occupants
have seatbelts. Pre-tensioners are provided for the front seatbelts to
make restraint more effective when the airbags deploy.
Other
Passive Safety features (some of which are made possible by having the
BCM) include the automatic activation of the hazard warning lights
during sudden braking from high speeds and automatic unlocking of all
doors when the airbags have been inflated. The latter, which is rare in
vehicles in this price class, will aid rescuers in extracting the
occupants during an accident. In the area of Active Safety, which helps the driver avoid an
accident, of note would be the high standards of handling which Proton
engineers have learnt from Lotus Engineering. This is an aspect which
Proton has often been praised for and over the past few years, its
engineers have been gaining more and more experience so it is only
natural that the Exora has superior handling characteristics which, as
a test-drive showed, could be considered above-average for a MPV in
this class.The brake system has ventilated discs in front and
drums at the rear with ABS standard. Electronic Brakeforce Distribution
(EBD) is also present and this is especially important for a MPV
because of the varying loads that will be on board at different times.
ABS only optimizes braking and stability (and allows the driver to
still steer the vehicle) by preventing the wheels from locking up and
skidding on slippery surfaces but the brake pressure between front and
rear is pre-set and does not change.


With
EBD, there is dynamic adjustment of the brake pressure between the
front and rear wheels according to the load distribution on board. This
ensures that braking will be optimized and stable whether there is just
the driver alone and the rear end is light or when there are seven
people on board and the vehicle is at maximum load.
So
the Exora is a very safe vehicle to travel in and this is something
which will be appreciated by owners. More praiseworthy is that Proton
has provided a number of safety features which are not standard in its
price class and this is certainly a big change from the days when other
makes gave more and Proton gave less.
Since the
time the Waja was launched with the promise of having 'far better
quality than ever before’ – and delivering the opposite – it’s been
hard to be 100% convinced that a new model will have better quality. So
new model reports have always had to end with something like
'…depending on the quality’. Unfortunately, this stigma will take some
time for Proton to get rid of and even with the Exora, there is still
concern even though every unit shown to the media had excellent fit and
finish. Make no mistake, this is the best model Proton has ever and it
would be a real shame if continued indifference by suppliers with
regards to quality diminishes the excellence. If the Exora can have
consistently high quality and less complaints are heard, then this
could be the model which finally rids Proton of its 'cheap but poor
quality’ reputation.For the Malaysian market, Proton expects to
sell 3,000 to 3,500 units a month, a figure that sounds realistic,
unlike those ridiculous numbers we used to be given for models like the
Juara, Gen2 and Savvy which didn’t seem to have any basis. Proton’s MD
Dato’ Haji Syed Zainal Abidin bin Syed Mohd Tahir understands that the
domestic market which Proton once dominated is no longer enough to
sustain it in the longer term and it has to look at the ASEAN region as
its 'home market’ and by July, the Exora will be launched in Indonesia
where it should do well since that is a MPV market.As Dato’ Haji
Syed Zainal told the media last week, the Exora marks the end of the
journey of transformation but it is also takes the company past another
milestone on the way to becoming a credible player in the auto
industry. It’s a product which shows that a small carmaker can still do
great things and this is especially impressive at a time when the
industry globally is not in good shape.

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PostSubject: Re: Proton exora 1.6 CPS   5/2/2010, 10:07 pm


It was a day of many firsts for me, the day Proton corporate
communications invited some of us to test drive a prototype of the new Proton Exora MPV.
Yup, we got to drive a pair of Exoras, both the same colour but taped
up in the typical black disguise that you’ve seen countless of times on
the spyshots featured on this site.
We drove 2 prototype units, one with a manual transmission and one
with an automatic transmission, from Proton’s plant in Shah Alam along
the KESAS highway, then onto the MRR2, Karak Highway, and then the East
Coast Expressway, where we made a U-turn at the Lanchang exit and on
back to the Proton plant (we stopped at Karak town for awhile). The
first half of my journey was in the manual model while the 2nd half was
in the automatic model.
Look after the jump for my experiencing with the Proton Exora,
as well as some other information gathered from our session with the engineers.


I believe one of the first questions you would like to have answered
on the Proton Exora MPV is whether it is underpowered or not. The next
would be whether it is spacious inside and comfortable. I will quickly
answer these concerns. Bear in mind all of my testing was done with
between 6 to 7 people on-board, so I don’t know how the car performs
with only 2-3 people in it. I would assume it would be so much better.
Comparing kerb weights, you can actually predict that an Exora with
only the driver in it would probably feel like a Waja with 4 people in
it?
The engine used under the hood is the Campro CPS engine and its CPS
and VIM activation parameters are similiar to the unit installed in the
Waja CPS and the GEN2 CPS. It is only the Satria Neo CPS which has
different CPS activation timing. It produces 125 horsepower at 6,500rpm
(7,000rpm redline) and 150Nm of torque at 4,500rpm. I am sure there is
still some improvements that can be squeezed out here as a competitor
engine can churn out 160Nm of twisting power from a normally aspirated
1.6 liter and the CPS is a long stroke engine which means it should be
able to be quite torquey by nature. The gearbox has had its final drive
modified to help with the power delivery, and 110km/h RPM on the auto
is somewhere between 2,700 to 2,800rpm (cannot remember exactly right
now for some reason).
The achilles heel of the Exora is the Campro CPS engine. With the
automatic transmission, it is best described as being just enough to
move the car, and you can feel the engine being worked really hard to
move the MPV, which was loaded up with 7 people. With a kerb weight of
1,380kg, adding all the passengers brings it close to its gross vehicle
weight of over 1,900kg. It is seriously no mean feat.
You can truly feel the torque curve of the CPS engine with your
butt-o-meter, no measuring devices necessary. Every dip and peak in the
curve can be felt because the pace of the MPV’s acceleration depends on
every single Newton meter that the engine can churn out. Proton’s
famous air conditioning compressor which works great but seems to sap
plenty of engine power can already be felt in cars like the GEN2 CPS,
but it is even more prominent in this car, slowing things down
considerably when it kicks in.
Now the thing is, the only time where acceleration was found to be
sluggy to the point of annoyance was when the Exora was starting from a
standstill. Not so much in the manual version but it’s quite bad in the
auto on even a slight incline. Once it gets going and the Campro engine
is in its powerband, things get going sufficiently. I won’t go to the
extent of describing it as swift or any similiar words, but I think
perhaps 80% of the time and an majority percentage of situations, the
Exora has enough power. Most Genting slopes can be taken with 2nd gear
in the manual if you have enough momentum, with only the steepest
requiring a shift to 1st gear. Mind you, this is according to a Proton
engineer as we didn’t climb Genting in our drive.
The manual has more ratios and saps less power. The auto is a little
more lethargic and there was one occasion on an incline where it felt
really sluggy because I had the pedal to the metal and there was room
to do a downshift but it did not! Perhaps there is still some work and
finetuning to be done on the TCU? Had to manually downshift via the
auto’s gate shifter.

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I think you can begin to visualise how you will have to drive this.
Plan your journey well and look far ahead at traffic as to plan your
route through the road’s traffic – minimize braking and keep the
momentum up, because once you slow down, acceleration is going to take
awhile. Stay out of the fast lane because if you change lanes to
overtake, it’s going to take a long time and you might annoy the hell
out of cars coming up behind you. I personally drive a car that is
quite underpowered as well and for slow and comfortable driving you
won’t have issues with the Exora.
Just don’t try to get anywhere in a hurry. Not with your entire
family on board anyway – too heavy and not good to endanger them. Also
you have to be careful when trying to get across busy crossjunctions or
enter busy roundabouts, I foresee that might be a problem with the auto.
On an empty road and ample space for acceleration, the Proton Exora
can actually achieve some really high speeds. 140 to 160km/h are no
problem given enough time and even beyond that is possible on a
downhill stretch. These high speeds can be sustained easily, it is only
when you slow down and try to climb back up to those speeds where it
takes a long time. Typical Campro and Campro CPS, only shines at the
top end, which is why I feel turbocharging with a low pressure turbo
will do wonders for it.
Another thing I noticed is how smooth the engine was. It was very
loud at high revs approaching the 7,000rpm redline and its boom echoed
throughout the interior, but there was not much vibration, something
that many current CPS-equipped car owners experience when they send
their rev needles to the redline, especially in the Satria Neo. And the
engine is pretty docile at regular highway cruise speeds. It’s quite
quiet actually. Conversations can be carried out all the way form the
front row to the third row without having to raise voices. That is a
sign of some pretty impressive sound proofing and NVH optimisation. It
remained calm and serene without us having to raise our voices to have
a conversation even at speeds of beyond 170km/h. It’s really
impressive. Like I mentioned before, the only time the cabin seemed
overwhelmed with noise is when the Campro CPS is near the redline. Then
you get the boom and blare.

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The Exora dashboard is probably a first Proton dashboard that does
not seem like it is built for midgets in a long long time. It isn’t set
too low in the interior. Had no complaints about it so I guess it is at
a proper proportionate height. The gear shifter is raised and is very
near to the steering wheel so it’s pretty easy to reach for whenever
you need to shift gears. The speedo is easy to read and done in white
and red.
There is now an instant real-time digital fuel consumption readout
but in our prototype vehicles this was not working. It displayed data
but was incorrect, with consumption numbers (in liters per 100km) being
excessively low most of the time. A Proton engineer told me the
prototype car had an old version of some software update and had not
been flashed to the latest version yet so the calibration for the
instant fuel consumption readout was all wrong. I have a miff with the
way you get the meter to display but I will cover this in a later story.
I was happy with the position of the steering wheel. It isn’t too
far away. Near enough for me to have a comfortable and firm grip. The
seat could be pushed back as far as I required (I am 182cm tall) and I
even tried pushing it completely to the rear, but there was still a
seriously large amount of legroom in the 2nd row. The driver’s seat was
slightly elevated and offers a SUV-like commanding view of what’s
ahead. The Proton Exora was stable and planted for as fast as I drove,
which is only up to about 160km/h at one point. The fastest I went most
of the time was only 140km/h, if I recall correctly. I didn’t dare
speed further than that actually as there were 6 other people in the
MPV with me, I didn’t want to risk anything.
The steering has a nice weight to it and is easy to keep steady
through negotiating a corner. It was precise too, pointing the nose of
the car exactly where you expect it to go. No complaints about the
brakes and there was also minimal brake dive. The Exora can be ever
slightly floaty at times depending on how undulating the terrain is but
I found that I only felt this as the driver, didn’t notice it as a
passenger.

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I drove more like a typical MPV driver would, but as a passenger I
witnessed some pretty mad cornering around the Karak curves at speeds
of 120 to 140km/h without the Goodyear Assurance tyres even making much
of a fuss. As usual, the Proton boys have got the car’s ride and
handling close to perfect. One of the most impressive things about the
MPV is the fact that the third row felt as chill as the 1st or 2nd row,
just that it has less space. At this price level or even much more
expensive than the RM70k to RM80k that the Exora is expected to be
priced at, you usually get a third row that is quite uncomfortable when
the vehicle is on the go, because of its position right over the
vehicle’s rear axle. It’s usually quite bumpy and headroom is sometimes
limited. The Exora trumps all its competition at this.
The third row is so comfortable compared to the bouncy stuff you get
with other cheap MPVs and even when one fellow journalist was whacking
the corners at high speeds, I didn’t feel thrown around or dizzy. When
the Proton Exora travels over an irreguliarity in the road such as the
usual place where 2 different pieces of an elevated highway joins
together during a corner, the rear end of the car remained composed and
calm. Other MPVs would swing and bounce around, creating discomfort for
the third row. There are air cond vents for all 3 rows, and the rear
rows get its own dedicated blower located in the space above the rear
left wheel. The fuel filler is on the other side of course. The rear
ceiling vents also have their own blower speed control mounted on the
ceiling. Air conditioning for 2nd and 3rd rows is really best in class
and the vent angles can be adjusted easily.
Now that we have the Proton Exora’s engine, handling and comfort
nailed down let’s talk about space and later proceed to usability/ease
of use. As previously mentioned, there is plenty of second row space.
Both the 2nd and 3rd row have the ability to have their seat recline
adjusted. The third row backrest and seat angle moves together when you
adjust its reclining position to maintain a comfortable hip point. For
me to fit in the third row requires the 2nd row to be a little more
straight up than the optimum comfortable position. That way I can fit
comfortably with only the cloth of my pants barely touching the 2nd row
seat back.

Third row legroom – I am 182cm tall
I didn’t really feel like I was sitting on the floor of the Proton
Exora though my knee was higher than usual and it was impossible to do
any form of leg stretching, but get into the third row of an Exora from
a competitor and you’ll feel relieved. There is also plenty of headroom
for all 3 rows. Headroom is seriously aplenty here. It makes it easy to
get into the third row as you do not have to bend down too much. The
third row is going to be seriously comfortable for kids. With the third
row fully reclined, the seatbacks are pretty much very close to the
rear glass. Luggage space is limited to the triangular-shaped area
between the seatback and the floor, which fits 1 golf bag and a few
other small items. If you make the third row seatback a little more
straight up, you create more luggage space, but it’s not going to be
very comfortable for adults at all. The M-Line also lacks any headrests
for the third row so it could touch the rear glass sometimes.

Third row headroom – I am 182cm tall
The second row of the Proton Exora has no sliding ability. But what
it can do is tumble-fold completely forwards, creating an empty space
in the area where the 2nd row is. This makes it quite easy to get into
the third row. The 2nd row seats split 60:40 and the tumbling mechanism
can be done independently of each other. The tumbling mechanism works
via pulling a strap – from what I understand you pull it a little and
it folds down once, pull it completely and it tumbles completely
forward against the first row seatback. As I previously mentioned,
there is quite alot of space in the 2nd row. Perhaps some of that space
should have been allocated in improving some of the third row space.
When I suggested this, a part of the Proton team gave an answer that
makes sense somehow. Proton wanted the MPV to feel big, spacious and
comfortable. It is the number one selling point for an MPV and an MPV
has to do that well for it to be considered a good MPV. Not handle well
or outrun a sports car. So what they did was make sure at least 5 out
of 7 people in the MPV enjoy a great experience. Not 7 people enjoying
a mediocre experience.
A convenient teh tarik hook is located in the lower area of the dash
near the front passenger footwell, and the front seats have some hooks
at the back of them for 2nd row usage as well. There are plenty of
cupholders and bottleholders, even for the third row.
One main pet peeve I have is that NONE of the Exora variants
destined for Malaysia have ISOFIX points, not even a single one in the
Exora. When I asked the engineers about this, the reason given was cost
and the lack of regulations requiring ISOFIX points in Malaysia.
Personally I feel as a national car company which gets plenty of
incentives from the government and is government-owned, safety for the
rakyat and future leaders of the nation should be at least given
priority! Not just airbags, etc. You harp on the necessity to have
seatbelts and force people to wear belts in all seats, so why deny
children the safety of a properly fixed child seat? I know this isn’t
up to the engineers and decide and from what I know they have no
problems implementing this, so it is more of a product planning
decision.

AA surveys show that child seats that are fitted with the adult
seatbelts are typically 70% to 80% misfitted with around 30% being
seriously misfitted. So what happens during an accident or harsh
braking? Your child might just fly together with the misfixed seat!
When even the Satria Neo has ISOFIX points, why not in the Exora? if
you say lack of regulation requirements – then why are they in the Neo?
Cost, how much can ISOFIX points cost! RM50 to RM100 per point? A
maximum of RM500 per car, with overly inflated costs for 2
ISOFIX-equipped seats in the 2nd row? Couldn’t scrapping some of your
Corporate Social Responsibility programs cover the cost of proper
ISOFIX points in your Exora? Spend the money on your real customers
instead of others!
Why wait for the government to enforce something? Proton should be
proactive in taking this step. Malaysians are not educated on such
safety features. Do your part in educating them. Perhaps in your focus
group studies for the Exora, none of the potential customers asked for
ISOFIX points because they don’t even know what ISOFIX is. That is no
reason for you to omit them. Put them in and educate them. Don’t be
penny-wise pound-foolish. The good PR from this will be valuable, more
than the cost of the points themselves. Really good child seats with
ISOFIX support can be expensive. Package them together with your hire
purchase loans for families to be able to afford them.
Do it, and do it soon. Showing that you are concerned about your
customers will do wonders for your image. Then move on later to more
than just 2 front airbags, and perhaps some form of stability and
traction control. Dual SRS airbags should really be made standard. I
hope there are people in the Proton management/product team reading
this.
The Proton Exora MPV is a very impressive product on the overall,
and even more so when you take into account its expected price level.
It’s got best in class interior room and can be compared to vehicles
that are on class above. It can move a whole family along in comfort,
just that it is slow in getting moving. I know it sounds like I’m
making excuses for Proton but from my own personal driving experience
there were only certain times when I felt it was underpowered. Given
that most of our drive was on the highway, most of the situation we
only had to get up to cruising speed once and the Exora maintained its
speed well. It’s just too bad that Proton has no powerful engine to put
in it at this point and has to compromise with the Campro CPS as the
sole option. It’s fine as a very baseline engine but it really cannot
be the only option. Hope that’s fixed with the Campro Turbo.
The lack of certain features such as ISOFIX points in the Malaysian
version in no way cripples the ability of the Exora to be a fine MPV of
course but it reflects the still on-going shortchanging that Malaysian
consumers always seem to get, because from what I was told, ISOFIX will
be in the export cars. In fact these are only the very few things that
I have to complain about, the MPV does its MPV duties really well and I
am impressed at how Proton engineers really got it right the first time.
Anyway forgive me for the lack of photos from the actual test drive
session. We weren’t allowed to use any photos actually and had to get
photos approved on a case by case and photo by photo basis with
justification. Whatever photos I justified using are already in this
story. I must thank Proton especially their corp comm team and
engineers for organising a well-planned and extremely informative test
drive session. More to come – some juicy details on some various new
features and specs of the Proton Exora including the BCM module.

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PostSubject: Re: Proton exora 1.6 CPS   5/2/2010, 10:09 pm

sudah drive baru tau....

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PostSubject: Re: Proton exora 1.6 CPS   5/2/2010, 10:12 pm

Many people are comparing Proton Exora with Grand Livina & Toyota
Avanza. Here are a picture of 3 of them sidelining. In terms of
feature, you can already see the differences.


Avanza-Grand livina-Exora






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PostSubject: Re: Proton exora 1.6 CPS   5/2/2010, 11:16 pm

bumbek wrote:
sudah drive baru tau....


tapi cuba try modified macam lakaran gambar di bawah ni... mengalah2kan wish pula...


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PostSubject: Re: Proton exora 1.6 CPS   6/2/2010, 10:52 pm

aLFFiaN wrote:
bumbek wrote:
sudah drive baru tau....


tapi cuba try modified macam lakaran gambar di bawah ni... mengalah2kan wish pula...



memang mantap tapi terlalu xtreme bah.... aku kali tukar RIm jak untuk family bah.. tapi memang cun

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PostSubject: Re: Proton exora 1.6 CPS   6/2/2010, 11:15 pm

lakaran ja bah tu... kalau mahu bikin boleh masuk autoshow antarabangsa terus tu... he he he

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PostSubject: Re: Proton exora 1.6 CPS   7/2/2010, 11:08 pm

aLFFiaN wrote:
lakaran ja bah tu... kalau mahu bikin boleh masuk autoshow antarabangsa terus tu... he he he


tapi cun lakaranya... tapi setakat ni belum ada yg buat cam gitu, ada juga yg xtreme tapi design lain, coz aku join www.protonexora.com.my/forum belum lagi nampak mod jadi gitu dalam group ni..

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PostSubject: Re: Proton exora 1.6 CPS   7/2/2010, 11:18 pm

aku ada jumpa parent budak aku pakai exora putih..
dia pny exora macam wish sdh aku tgk dia buat...cun jg..
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PostSubject: Re: Proton exora 1.6 CPS   7/2/2010, 11:23 pm

neo_sontoloyo wrote:
aku ada jumpa parent budak aku pakai exora putih..
dia pny exora macam wish sdh aku tgk dia buat...cun jg..


bah kasi upload gambar.... manatau berminat.

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PostSubject: Re: Proton exora 1.6 CPS   8/2/2010, 12:16 am

nnt aku curi pic ketenya..hehehe
dia just pakai full skirtng masuk rim 18 kalau nda silap...
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PostSubject: Re: Proton exora 1.6 CPS   22/2/2010, 2:51 pm

bumbek wrote:
aLFFiaN wrote:
bumbek wrote:
sudah drive baru tau....


tapi cuba try modified macam lakaran gambar di bawah ni... mengalah2kan wish pula...



memang mantap tapi terlalu xtreme bah.... aku kali tukar RIm jak untuk family bah.. tapi memang cun


aku trbayang viva superman pula jd macam ni taw.. alala..

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PostSubject: Re: Proton exora 1.6 CPS   6/3/2010, 11:26 pm

okeh..LIKE sj sama dia..macam d fb..keke..tp mantap memang..

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